Are they still around though? I think they filed for bankruptcy. The jeezus wannabe ceo was a good con artist.

Not a book exactly, but East of West would make for some great narrative and world building.

Stellan Skarsgård as Judge would be terrifying. Not sure a out accent.

Waves (2019)

Exceptional movie. Highly recommend

Thanks.

The issue is I am argumentative. I like having disagreents and most of all I like hearing different points of view. If this sounds like a vanilla take, it’s because it is.

If I disagree with people on fb or insta or ask to verify the facts of an event there I will get push back or I will learn something new. I will also hear some combative words. Nothing strange.

If I ask about the facts of the matter here:

• “blocked”

• “troll”

• “fuck you you cuntfuck defender of Kyle Rittenhouse. Eat dick.”

• “I have you labeled as conservative cuck”

On. And on. And on. But it’s OK, because apparently asking for facts is justification to garner this, right?

What gives?

I think you’re right. Hot button topics are just to be avoided I guess or fare repercussion.

How can we avoid being captured by epistemic bubbles though? That’s the part that scares me.

That’s the issue. People conflate fact checking with defending Kyle. That’s weird. It shouldn’t be one on the other. Dont you agree with that at least? Is that a controversial take?

Sorry. I reread your previous comment. You make some good 'points.

I never intended to defend Kyle. And I can see why people would assume that. My messaging was very poor and I think people went straight to labeling we a Rittenhouse supporter. Given that the labeling persisted even after I clarified I’m not interested in defending Kyle. I understand it’s a charged topic and the rage blinders just come on right away. That kinda makes sense.

But then how do we talk about sensitive topics at all? Do we bury our heads in the sand?

I’m Ok with that. It seems to come up in benign comments too. Thats why I was curious. I’ll own the asshole position and declare myself a loser. I’m not offended by that.

That’s good! Gives me hope. Thanks!

I could be an asshole. I won’t debate that. Maybe I am.

My point isn’t to claim I’m not an asshole. My point is compared to other spaces the vitriol and anger here seems ramped to 100.

But my point isn’t that people don’t disagree with me. I want to find disagreement because I don’t want to live in an echo chamber. I want to discuss ideas. Mi point is that the vitriol here seems stronger than other places. That’s all.

So. If I understand correctly, talking about charged topics is an automatic invitation for extreme vitriolic language? I don’t experience this elsewhere (if, fb) . It should be more vitriolic on fb than here… Not the other way around no?

I have nothing against down votes.

You’re doing it here too sort of. Your attacking me for asking this question.

I have discussions on politics on other platforms and there is a substantial difference. That’s the crux of my question. Why?

I don’t disagree. I did do that. I also did get into a few arguments, it my statements were pretty benign. I never once insulted anyone. I welcome everyone to look at my interactions with yeet (and others). Is the response proportional? You decide.

Depends. By what metric? It’s the fifth largest economy in the world with the top literacy rate in the nation. What are you comparing it to? Mississippi? I need more than but muh California!!!

So cheap to always both sides it. The “oligarchs”. Do you guys have a script you pass around? You guys can’t seem to have any original thoughts

Based on the judges he appointed it doesn’t really matter what Trump says

Edit: oh my god. The article is from 2016. He’s done the exact opposite for gay rights

For me personally the first tell is when they are morally loading every statement in an argument and are unable to engage with a topic directly. Adults should be able to discuss or debate certain topics on the value of the arguments alone without feeling pressured to include a declarative virtue signal in every clause.