Which would be simplification.

Like I said, much of the new things you’re complaining about is simplification. Flatpak, Wayland, xdg-portals.

A personal computer should be as complex as Amiga 500 tops.

Lol. Why stop there? Why not say they should be no more complex than an abacus?

What you run in them is untrusted crap.

How?

And assuming it is… running it without a sandbox is somehow better??

Yes, what’s standard in X11 has N different variants with Wayland. Correct

Can you please answer. X11 is far more complex than Wayland. Why do you prefer it if you like simplicity?

I don’t use it at all.

You don’t use programs that… do things? Things like follow system theming, give notifications, open/save files, record your screen, open a file picker, etc? I don’t think you’re grasping what portals are.

If you meant that Wayland is simpler than X11,

Wayland is simpler than X11, by a long shot.

let’s compare them when Wayland reaches feature parity.

It won’t ever, by choice. It’s not meant to. X11 is filled with many mistakes that it should never have had.

Also X11 as a standard is simple enough.

The X11 developers say otherwise, and have embraced Wayland.

I also consider Nix and Guix to be better solutions to some of the problems Flatpak and Snap solve, and Flatpak and Snap to fall short of solving others.

Christ. I don’t. At all. You want simplicity and are now advocating for Nix and Guix, no Flatpaks, sticking with X11, no xdg-portals?

Do you have the definitions of “simple” and “complicated” mixed up in your mind?