• OpenStars@discuss.online
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      Unfortunately for work I may have no choice:-(. Several of our daily work products I’ve tried on Firefox without success. Those also don’t have ads.

      I wish there were better alternatives. I may try out LibreWolf but I could not imagine it somehow being easier, though with enough effort put in the end result may be all that matters. Until the first update (possibly forced on the server end even if I don’t on mine) that breaks everything and I cannot do my work for the day, in which case I will absolutely go crawling back to Chrome, bc they have us by the short hairs there.:-(

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        2 months ago

        It is open source so not really a corporation’s product.

        They just maintain it, and the moment they screw up, a fork will take over from there.

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          Chromium (Google Chrome’s base) is also open source.

          And yet, we’re still at a corporation’s mercy as to whether everything Chromium-based gets ruined by Google’s fuck-what-the-users-want policies. Like with Manifest V3. And JXL support. And extensions on mobile.

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        I’m grateful for FF, but they also annoy me at times. Just little stuff probably not worth bitching about in detail. But also a peek at the potential for problems that you’re talking about.

        So of course I’ll bitch about it.

        I call it the “stop whatever you think you’d rather do right now and pay attention to our product” type shit.

        Imagine you have a combination wrench and whenever you take it out of the toolbox it starts yammering at you about how great of a wrench it is and all if its shiny features. Fucking ridiculous, right?

        So why do we tolerate software that does that?

        Way too much software does this pushy shit. Just stay outta my face and do your actual job, software.

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        Yeah, it’s strange just how readily the blinders go up wherever Mozilla is concerned. They’re a corp, just like any other; if they had the money and leverage, they’d be just as aggressive as Google. Have people already forgotten that time they laid off 200+ employees and then gave all the execs bonuses?

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          But they haven’t threatened to undercut ad blocking yet, so as a comparison they are better.

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            Absolutely, but Mozilla is pretty much owned by Google anyway, and falling in love with these companies as wide eyed fanboys never looks good when they eventually turn.

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          This is the first I’ve heard of LibreWolf. Is it compatible with Windows 7? And also, why is it good?

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            You really shouldn’t connect windows 7 to the internet.

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            Librewolf is a fork of firefox that removes bloat and telemetry. You can “harden” firefox to do the same thing, but librewolf comes out of the box hardened.

            By the way, If you’re on win7 and don’t want to upgrade, Linux Mint might be a good alternative. It looks and feels similar but isn’t a security risk to connect to the internet.

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            https://librewolf.net/

            A summary from its site and known technical details:

            • no telemetry by default
            • includes uBlock Origin
            • has sane privacy-respecting defaults
            • prepackages arkenfox user.js
            • relatively well-maintained fork of Firefox that keeps up with upstream
            • No major controversies AFAIK

            As for Windows 7, nobody should really need to install Librewolf anyway on such a device. No device running Windows 7 should have access to the internet at this point. If you are asking about compatibility intending this use case, you have bigger problems to worry about than your choice of browser. If you just need to view HTML files graphically, even Internet Explorer or an older firefox ESR will do.

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        You’re overreacting. Firefox knows their users. I am a huge “stan” for Firefox, but I will delete it like a time traveller if they make it impossible to ignore ads. I will salt the earth and poop on Firefox’s grave and actively avoid it everywhere… However. If I’m wrong, there will be a Next Thing…

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        If you use a DNS solutions you can block all the telemetry shit. Frankly FF has been phoning home in a lot of undesirable ways for many years even before this, like most browsers.

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          Firefox is no longer an adversary to Google for the browser market, if it ever was. FF has become a vassal of Google that with its tyranny is dictating the course of the internet, such as WEI that as far as I know it was abandoned at least for now.

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      Anyone else been having issues of not being able to load YouTube videos past the first few seconds on Firefox using ublock? I couldn’t find any recent information online. I don’t know if this is part of the war on ad blockers, or unrelated.

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        I watched several videos today on Firefox with ublock origin and no issues. Haven’t run into issues with ads yet.

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    Yeah, we saw this coming. When Manifest v3 first talked about.

    Google an ad company are killing ab blockers. Yeah, that sounds right.

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        I wish, but I don’t see it happening. Most people are just content with seeing ads absolutely everywhere, I just don’t get it.

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    There it is. Firefox and Librewolf will guide us out of this mess.

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    So, what they’re saying is: Chrome will have severely decreased functionality and users will no longer be able to protect themselves from sketchy ads that contain scams, malware, and other nefarious bullshit (often hosted on Google’s own ad networks)?